TOPIC: State Citizen Passport & Immunity

State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 10 months ago #13

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Hi Collins, I don't know if you ask me about the passport but my Post was about the FOIA not the green passport, just to clarify.
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State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 10 months ago #14

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Hello all,

Does anyone have any experience with SEDM.org's "passport attachment" form? I'm considering that as an option and would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks
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State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 9 months ago #15

  • Rhadaghast
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Hi all, Newby here.
Great group glad to have you.

I was digging into status change when I ran across this..".So what was my “magic”? As I wrote above, in 1970 I was prosecuted by the IRS in Federal Court in Los Angeles for criminal failure to file or pay income tax. In the opening phase of that criminal prosecution I challenged the IRS prosecutor, during his opening statement, where he had said, “Citizens of the United States have an obligation to blah, blah, blah…”, whereupon I stood and entered my objection to his implication that I had incurred the obligations he was mentioning. INTERPRETATION/OPINION – In other words he objected to the implication that one automatically has a “statutory duty” to comply… knowing most statutes apply to corporations or person who have a contractual duty, such as those engaged in “revenue taxable activity” or government servants, or operate excise tax based/ licensed activity, with very specific limitations.

I challenged the Prosecutor to present documented proof from his existing file, that I had volunteered myself into a condition of servitude to the United States, as would be required under the Thirteenth Amendment in order for me to have incurred the obligations mentioned by that IRS prosecutor.

When the IRS prosecutor was unable to so do, the Federal Judge then stated that he was taking the matter under consideration and that I would be notified. That took less than five minutes. That was forty-four yeas ago and I am still waiting. I have never ever filed or paid income tax and I have never ever been bothered by the IRS since that one event in California in 1970.

Neither the IRS Prosecutor or the Federal Judge in that Federal IRS prosecution mentioned any points touted by “Sovereign Citizens”. There was no mention that “my name” was written in all caps in the complaint or that I had failed to file any document objecting thereto; nor did they mention the gold fringed United States flag that was on display in the courtroom. The one and only issue considered was the ability of the IRS to prove I had volunteered myself into a condition of servitude, as is required, when challenged, under the prohibition of involuntary servitude provision of the Thirteenth Amendment. Neither did the Prosecutor or Judge ask me if I had a driver license, Social Security number; if I used Federal Reserve Notes or traveled on the government owned roads; had my automobile registered, licensed and insured; or if I had a hunting license; or was a registered voter"

I would love to here you take on it.
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State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 8 months ago #16

  • Prettyscriptorian
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The thing is, I looked into this a bit and found that the green passports were actually issued in history to everyone, then they changed to blue. Later, in the 70's they issued a green passports again a celebration (bicentennial) and then during 1994 they were issued to some people again. So, according to the current information that is posted out there, everyone gets a Blue one unless you're a diplomat or a military person doing special assignments or special contractors working overseas.

I'm interested to know if Patrick ever did get his green passport. I'm interested in this program but want to learn more about it first and also see if Patrick was indeed successful.

I look forward to learning with you all!
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State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 7 months ago #17

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To Rhadaghast re: Post 362

This is a classic example of challenging the prosecutor's standing in court by attacking the assumptions and presumptions that they operate on. Where is the contract? Where is your authority? I don't care who you are, produce the documents for the court!

We addressed this in detail in the presentation made on the Members Web Conference Sept. 19. If you missed it, be sure to see it in the Web Conference Replay section.
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State Citizen Passport & Immunity 7 years 7 months ago #18

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To Rubberleaf71 re: Post #315

I'm in the process now of applying for a new passport (renewal) using the 'statement' option. Will keep you posted. I'm not using SEDM though. Using another consultant. He comes recommended by a couple of other law club members who have used him successfully. The statement then goes on permanent record with the State Department as to your status as American national and NOT 'US Citizen'. They accept it and thus 'agree' with your averments and it's a matter of record.
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